@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 10:34AM
let's see what the futures hold,,,,
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 11:10AM
both climate change & automation are knocking on our door, haunting the crises that await us
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 11:26AM
this isn't terrifying
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 11:35AM
fuck to capitalism
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 12:14PM
shorter work week >>>>>>>>>>>
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 12:49PM
some "children of men" shit
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 12:57PM
class struggle he'll yeah
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 01:04PM
frase proposes in order to deal with the automation & climate change crises will require a vastly different economic system
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 01:16PM
socialism or barbarism
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 01:23PM
frase will sketch four possible futures; two socialisms & two barbarisms
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 01:30PM
frase begins w two assumptions:

1. capitalism is going to end, &

2. our future will be a result of political struggle
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 01:42PM
the four possible futures frase will describe are:
communism, rentism, socialism, & exterminism
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 02:01PM
predictions can encourage passivity;
assessing possibilities encourages collective action aka DREAM BIG folks
@katereadsbks Monday, 31. July 2017 02:03PM
this highlights a fundamental problem in incrementalism in that it limits what actually could happen from the get
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 10:48AM
at beginning of communism ch, frase discusses vonnegut's first novel, player piano, & what could possibly mean to live in full automation
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 11:06AM
frase points out that marx wouldn't spell out precisely how communism would look,,
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 11:13AM
"freedom begins where work ends" he'll yeah
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 11:29AM
frase again mentions that the labor movement used to demand shorter hours & the idea of ridding wage labor was once a project of the left
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 12:23PM
let's talk about work, babey
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 12:27PM
what we talk about when we talk about work
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 12:32PM
he takes on the idea that unemployed are > unhappy & finds a study that shows when the unemployed become retired their happiness increases
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 12:34PM
his argument, then, isnt that employment brings us > meaning or joy in & of itself, but rather we as society treat unemployed w little worth
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 12:36PM
as someone who has a decent amt of experience w unemployment, i concur not working is enjoyable but having to tell ppl im unemployed isn't
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 12:37PM
also, id argue lack of wage & stress that accompanies being poor also increases the unhappiness but that id be fine w/o working in general
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 12:39PM
what's your take? your experience?
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 12:46PM
[v never-seen-the-show voice] huh. i'd no idea star trek has more or less communist society

those of u who watch: did u ever pick his up?
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 12:58PM
lmao
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 01:21PM
also, in response to unemployment chimes in w good input, as usual, considering effects of long term unemployment
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 01:38PM
though frase, like marx, won't spell out specifics of how we get to communism, he warns it may not be as revolutionary as some think
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 01:46PM
frase makes the case that the main goal & priority is to decommodify labor, & steps to achieve this can be acquired through welfare state
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 01:54PM
to reiterate, folks,, ~decommodification of labor~
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 01:59PM
gorz, a french socialist who praises non-reformist reforms, is a proponent of "universal basic income" as reform that can lead to socialism
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 02:02PM
frase explains how universal basic income (ubi) can transition capitalist societies to full communism
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 02:19PM
communism wont eliminate all conflicts/problems; as puts it, it's a way to "convert hysterical misery into ordinary unhappiness"
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 02:21PM
not all heirarchies can be reduced to capital
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 02:29PM
in order to conceptualize full communism, frase looks to a fictional portrayal where money is gone but life is organized around "whuffies"
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 02:31PM
"whuffies" are explained as similar to social media validation based on likes or rts; frase argues reputation & esteem will always be scarce
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 02:37PM
any conflict is resolved by who has the highest social status acquired by whoofies, instead of money
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 02:39PM
1. yes, it sounds fairly terrifying tbh, &

2. "racism & sexism don't disappear when capitalism does" hillary was right! lol
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 02:48PM
another example: the wikipedia project
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 03:06PM
frase discusses bitcoin & more interestingly, dogecoin

did any of you use dogecoin?
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 03:10PM
the complexity of utopia <<<<<<<<<<<
@katereadsbks Wednesday, 02. August 2017 03:18PM
to sum up the possible communist future:
it's not perfect & it's not egalitarian but we're not slaves to money & "work"
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 10:18AM
get ready,,
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 10:30AM
"those who control the most copyrights and patents become the new ruling class"
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 10:39AM
rentism is different from capitalism bc the rentiers don't produce anything & receive a passive income simply by "owning" (stocks, land, IP)
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 10:57AM
private property & rentism is not necessarily a given in a capitalist state; however, the complete privatization of land is normalized now
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 11:02AM
intellectual property is v diff fm private property in that u don't own physical object but rather a pattern, an idea that can be replicated
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 11:29AM
examples of intellectual property:
genetically modified seeds, apple iphone software, pharmaceuticals, entertainment, brands, etc
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 11:33AM
intellectual property industries already make up a decent chunk of the economy
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 11:42AM
the penalties for "copying" IP seem steep
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 11:46AM
great example of rentism automation
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 11:51AM
star trek in a rentist society
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 12:00PM
frase identifies four potential career fields in rentist society:
creators, lawyers, marketers, & guards, all of which could be automated
@katereadsbks Thursday, 03. August 2017 12:10PM
the problem of demand
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 10:09AM
hey u kids wanna try some socialism 😼😈
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 10:35AM
capitalism and scarcity
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 10:48AM
frase thinks full on human extinction fm climate change is unlikely & the q becomes how to organize our society for those that do survive
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 10:54AM
frase's concern is that the result is a more or less egalitarian society, vs a small ruling class & everyone else (think children of men)
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 11:02AM
do not succumb to nihilism
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 11:09AM
πŸ–• think πŸ–• positive πŸ–•
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 11:19AM
πŸ’…πŸ’―πŸ’…
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 11:31AM
meager emotional satisfaction is the name of my memoir
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 11:41AM
frase goes on to explain that we'll hv to rethink our relationship w nature & suggests we determine how to cohabitate mutually beneficially
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 12:17PM
love the monster we've made
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 12:23PM
πŸŒΈπŸ’œπŸ€–πŸ
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 12:47PM
plenty to do in a resource-challenged socialist world
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 01:23PM
markets, markets, markets !
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 01:45PM
consumption is limited by the market, a technology, in an ecologically limited world where distribution of means of payment is equalized
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 01:46PM
that's a mouthful folx. it's also a possible future
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 01:50PM
πŸ’Έ socialize πŸ’Έ uber πŸ’Έ
@katereadsbks Friday, 04. August 2017 02:02PM
the socialist future contains multitudes
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 10:55AM
the final chapter, i've a bad feeling about this πŸ’€
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 11:10AM
exterminism is when scarcity meets heirarchy; there is abundance but only for a small elite
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 11:17AM
frase also points out that the communistic world described in ch one already exists for the very rich
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 11:24AM
something much darker
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 11:43AM
w capitalism, the masses are needed to work;
w automation, the need for the worker disappears
which poses a grave threat to the masses
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 11:59AM
welp, here we go,
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 12:30PM
"a world where the poor are merely a danger and an inconvenience"

when the masses aren't needed to work, what's their utility
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 12:34PM
for now ,
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 12:47PM
"an inverted global gulag" holy shit
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:01PM
lol
@politiburr Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:03PM
I've been saying for years technocrats are scarier than any other 1%ers. They distrust people, most having social anxiety issues.
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:10PM
normal world we've got here
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:17PM
im no expert but this doesn't sound good,,
@backwards_dance Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:20PM
I'm glad they're scared, but also I think they're more scared than they realistically need to be at this time
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:26PM
[sweating] this is fine
@dualhammers Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:28PM
Some of this already seems to be happening
@backwards_dance Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:29PM
I hate this especially because it seems like the most likely of the futures - we can already see it beginning in a way the others are not
@backwards_dance Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:30PM
It's also a path of least resistance, broadly. The other futures mostly require large scale reorganization of society...
@backwards_dance Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:32PM
Exterminism mostly just needs to keep moving down path of tech progress without making adjustments to policy/society to account for changes
@backwards_dance Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:34PM
Speaking about America specifically, that is. Subtle measures to suppress or kill the poor are baked into this nation's bones
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:35PM
while this may seem far off, frase points to the genocide happening to the palestinian people as we speak
@hell_maybe Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:37PM
Ughhhhh
@Nope_nope_nono Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:42PM
Ugh. When I read about the caloric "quota" in gaza, I find myself waiting for the other shoe to drop
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:46PM
tfw u realize america's current trajectory most likely leads to exterminism, of the four futures
@backwards_dance Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:52PM
Just realized I didn't specifically mention devastating global warming being included in "changes" but hell, we all know by this point
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:56PM
πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ america is already great πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 02:11PM
frase finishes the book citing more examples of how the us is approaching exterminism: mass incarceration, police brutality, militarization
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 02:16PM
can't imagine how using algorithms for prison sentencing (or identifying drone targets) can go wrong
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 02:23PM
silencing protests bodes well for exterminism
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 02:28PM
😘😘😘
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 02:53PM
that's it, folkx

i may post about the conclusion later today or tmr
@zylalovesyou Saturday, 05. August 2017 02:53PM
kate ur the gr8 thanks for wordsing
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 02:55PM
😽
@RonniePilge Saturday, 05. August 2017 02:08PM
I'd say rentism looks pretty familiar too, so maybe a mix where only some of us are killed? 🀞
@Nope_nope_nono Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:43PM
Uh, flawed movie but isn't this the turn that Metropolis takes? This is fine this is fine this is fine
@katereadsbks Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:47PM
not sure bc i'ven't seen
@Nope_nope_nono Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:49PM
Silent German sci-fi. Futuristic city exploits worker class, then automates and plots to drown all the workers. Silly not so silly ☹️
@Nope_nope_nono Saturday, 05. August 2017 01:50PM
(Really long and pretentious, so not necessarily recommending)
@benl7 Saturday, 05. August 2017 02:06PM
my guess is that the most plausible exerminist society would rely heavily on forced sterilization if it were to try to wipe out the poor
@supaspoida Saturday, 05. August 2017 02:21PM
This is why I'm super skeptical of that graph that circulates showing the % of people living in poverty over time decreasing.